I guess I will start this one off :)
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I guess I will start this one off :)
I know it is not easy identifying boo from thes epictures but any help would be welcome. best guess anyone has had so far is ph. bisseti.
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Meat, I was the one who had guessed Bissetii with the understanding that it is just a guess until you have shoots to look at.
Here are some ways to get closer to it being ID'd. As I understand it, the bamboo has been growing in Zone 6 in MO for 4 years? If so, Bissetii should be 10-14 feet tall, about 3/4 inch diameter and should have formed a very dense screen by now. It also should be remaining green all winter.
If the owners say the leaves stay green in winter, that can really narrow it down to a couple in your climate, most likely Bissetii, Nuda, Rubro, and the green form of Aureosulcata, along with perhaps Atrovaginata, Decora and Heteroclada.
The nodes rule out Rubro; it does not look like Heteroclada or Atrovaginata; the green Aureosulcata and the Decora are probably too uncommon to be the ones. So my guesses are narrowed down to Nuda & Bissetii. Bissetii would remain a fresher green in winter and have formed a much denser screen than Nuda, so talk to the owner about winter and think about how dense the grove is. Bissetii will have tons of culms very close together and it will almost be dark inside of the grove. Nuda would likely have some dark coloration on the lower part of the culms, would suffer some leaf burn in winter and would not be as dense as Bissetii.
Here are some ways to get closer to it being ID'd. As I understand it, the bamboo has been growing in Zone 6 in MO for 4 years? If so, Bissetii should be 10-14 feet tall, about 3/4 inch diameter and should have formed a very dense screen by now. It also should be remaining green all winter.
If the owners say the leaves stay green in winter, that can really narrow it down to a couple in your climate, most likely Bissetii, Nuda, Rubro, and the green form of Aureosulcata, along with perhaps Atrovaginata, Decora and Heteroclada.
The nodes rule out Rubro; it does not look like Heteroclada or Atrovaginata; the green Aureosulcata and the Decora are probably too uncommon to be the ones. So my guesses are narrowed down to Nuda & Bissetii. Bissetii would remain a fresher green in winter and have formed a much denser screen than Nuda, so talk to the owner about winter and think about how dense the grove is. Bissetii will have tons of culms very close together and it will almost be dark inside of the grove. Nuda would likely have some dark coloration on the lower part of the culms, would suffer some leaf burn in winter and would not be as dense as Bissetii.
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the reason i steared away form nuda was because every image I saw of nuda it kinda had a crooked stem. Thsi stuf is straight as an arrow. The ones in the grove where I got them are all rather tightly packed I would say most of the plants are within roughly 6 to 10 inches of eachother. The owners have just purchased the house aso they have yet to see a winter. I wiill take some pics of the grove this weekend. I am going back to harvest a bunch more. They have roughly 300 they want to get rid of to thin them out. I have done my best to show them how to contain the grove a little better and shown them what i can with my limitied knowledge. I will post up some pics this weekend of the grove itself maybe that will shed some more light. Sorry I keep at it I am almost ocd when it comes to thinkgs like this
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btw here is a picture of the grove I got them from
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Hmmm
there is a house ...yes i found another house in my neighborhood with bamboo....and it has a similar form to what you took a pic of. I will try and get some pics of it this week. the lady said i can have some. it isn't YG....Go figure what are the chances of two diff. sp. growing in the same neighborhood all the way by me.... No one around me even really knows what it is...including the people who have it....
Panic ATTACK!!!!!!!!!!!
uh-oh, Kurt!!!
Pretty soon everyone will have bamboo in the neighborhood and your bamboo will just look like some old common yard plants.
Only way you'll be able to break that mold is to put the pink flamingos back out onto the yard.
Meat, Looks like the people have a nice little grove. ARe they just trying to control it, or do they plan on getting rid of it all. Hopefully they have a little space in their heart for bamboo.
Pretty soon everyone will have bamboo in the neighborhood and your bamboo will just look like some old common yard plants.
Only way you'll be able to break that mold is to put the pink flamingos back out onto the yard.
Meat, Looks like the people have a nice little grove. ARe they just trying to control it, or do they plan on getting rid of it all. Hopefully they have a little space in their heart for bamboo.
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Diggings.......
Kurt, if the lady in your neighborhood is looking to give away more than you want, I'd be very interested in digging Bissetti in that area. Ironically I've been thinking about posting and asking if anyone knows of a bissetti dig in PA , MD or SE NY. They don't seem to pop up too often.
I don't have much to trade for your help in facilitating, but could come up with rhizomes (probably with some whipshoots) of Red Margin, Yellow yellow groove and incense (I don't have much of this).
I'm working on a long privacy screen up by Honedale PA and the DE water gap is a short distance to drive for boo. If it's one plant or ten, I'll be there.
Thanks,
Chris
I don't have much to trade for your help in facilitating, but could come up with rhizomes (probably with some whipshoots) of Red Margin, Yellow yellow groove and incense (I don't have much of this).
I'm working on a long privacy screen up by Honedale PA and the DE water gap is a short distance to drive for boo. If it's one plant or ten, I'll be there.
Thanks,
Chris
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Meat, the shoot photo also says Bissetii so I'm sticking with that ID.
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Re: id
Knowing very little about temperate bamboos, I submit the following 2 links of images of P. bissettii and I ask the question: "Do the shoots in the links look anything like the shoot of the bamboo in question?"needmore wrote:Meat, the shoot photo also says Bissetii so I'm sticking with that ID.
http://www.bambooweb.info/images/bamboo ... ttii88.jpg
http://www.bambooweb.info/images/bamboo ... ttii86.jpg
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bissetii shoots
Roy, I have more Bissetii than most anything else and the shoot photos in the bambooweb database are not representitive in my experience. The color is flat and the 'Argile socks' markings are not present (I think of Nuda as having even more exagerated Argile markings). It has been suggested that there are at least 2 clones of Bissetii out there, exhibiting different spread and hardiness but I have no opinion about that, but it might explain differences in shoot coloration.
Mine is hyper-hardy, produces a ton of new culms each year and the shoots look more like asparagus than any other species I have - a bright, green with small blades and the Argile effect. In my experience the Bissetii shoots are unique.
Mine is hyper-hardy, produces a ton of new culms each year and the shoots look more like asparagus than any other species I have - a bright, green with small blades and the Argile effect. In my experience the Bissetii shoots are unique.
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Bissetii
Here is a link from The Lewis Bamboo catalogue (thanks Roger) at the very bottom of the page are a couple of good Bissetii shoot photos.
http://lewisbamboo.com/bissetii.html
They have a strong resemblence, no?
http://lewisbamboo.com/bissetii.html
They have a strong resemblence, no?
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