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Any ideas :?: Largest culm 5"(measured)x approx 55'. Possibly 2 varieties :?: Sorry about the file size. I'll do better in the future.

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I'm guessing its vivax with a size like that. What species were you thinking it could be? But tell us more about this grove. Is it located in your region?
I'm interested in this soap opera. 8)
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Hey Lance,
This grove is located about 3 miles from me in Murfreesboro.
I've been trying to get permission to dig there for several years.
Well last Fall I offered the owner $100 if he would let me dig. He said for
$100 dollars you can dig all you want. So I did. I got 5 root balls that were
so big I had to use a winch and a ramp to load them in my truck!
I also dug 8 or 9 50# + root balls, + lots of little stuff and some rhizomes.
He wants me to come back this Spring and dig up those 100's of pesky rhizomes in his yard!!
I feel like I won the lottery. I don't really care what
it is,but it's big and tall, and grows right here. The grove will be 18 years old
this Spring. He bought 6 little plants from a co. in New England, I forget the
name but he showed me the shipping invoice and it said P. Bambusoides,
and P Viridis. Now I don't see any viridis but I do see Vivax, and poss
bambusoides. He cut down over 1/2 of this grove 2 years ago, and his whole
back yard is covered with those troublesome rhizomes. If you want to look
at it from the air the grove is on Sulfur Springs Road, and Haynes drive.
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David, the culms with the white rings could well be the Viridis. The others with the darker, low-pointing leaves almost looks like Dulcis, but it also could Bambusoides although I'd be surprised if it were hardy enough to size up like that inTN. Still, it does look like Bambusoides.
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Hi Brad,
It does look somewhat like viridis, but around here Viridis tends to get a yellow cast to the leaves, and the white band tends to darken down after the first year. I'll examine the texture of the culms, and get back to you. If it is mixed with bambisoides, then the bambisoides is the largest 5"X55'. I didn't think bambisoides would get that big here? I hope it is, just think what it would do with a little mulch, fertilizer, and thinning.
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The culm texture might be helpful ,viridis is rough while P. Bambusoides is smooth
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David, Do you have a address that would pinpoint the place on terraserver.
But anyways, I couldn't find it and decided look somewhere else on the server.

http://terraserver-usa.com/image.aspx?T ... 33.6333166

I'm assuming what I'm seeing is some bamboo groves, ehh?



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Brad- You may be right about the viridis. I just had vivax on my mind to the exclusion of everything else. I checked the culm surface of the unknown, and compared it to a couple of viridis plantings that I have, and they felt about the same. I used a pocket microscope and they both appear similar. I was going to impress you guys with my new marco digital camera with some really tight closeups but I couldn't figure out how to use it! :? Maybe next time. When they said manual they meant it!
I don't think the other plant is dulsis it's just to big and the branches are longer than dulsis. If it's bambasoides it must be a more cold hardy clone and we should get it distributed to all us cold weather folks! Perhaps the viridis acted as a nurse crop for the bambasoides? Shooting season will tell. Thanks for your input.

Lance- The address is 2409 Sulfur Springs Road, Murfreesboro, TN

That looks like the Lewis place. Do you think I should dig up those pesky rhizomes for him?
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terraserver doesn't recognize Sulfur Springs Road. It recognizes haynes drive, but not the other road. Maybe I'm not searching, right. :cry:

Looking at the Lewis bamboo map; what is the bamboo seen across the river, running along the river north to south. Is it many different species of bamboo. It creates a aerial view of one long-interconnected bamboo grove.
:?:

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Lance,
I found the place on haynes dr off SS Road. Here's the link.

http://terraserver-usa.com/image.aspx?T ... 35.8895159

Look in the nw corner. The road at the top is Haynes, and the main road going south is SS Road. Count down 2 houses on the west side of SS Road The dark green area behind the house is the bamboo grove. Directly behind (west)that grove is an open strip where a power line goes through. Directly
west of that is a grove of Yellow groove that has since been cut down by the power Co. The big grove of bamboo is only a 1/3 of what it used to be. He cut down more than I thoght.

I think what your seeing at the lewis place are Pine stands, they'er right in
timber country
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Is the owner plan on demolishing the whole grove? I guess his expectations of bamboo were not some how met.
What one man's trash is another man's treasure. Lucky you found that grove and were allowed to all-you-can-dig before it is obsolete.
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Oh yes, pine country :? . That hadn't crossed my mind :oops: . I saw photos were taken in January and started to assume evergreen=bamboo.
How many acres do they have in those where-a-bouts. Sounds like they have one of the bigger bamboo nurseries around.




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I think they have 7 acres where they live, but they have many groves and at least one farm in another location. I've never asked how many acres they have total, but they move a lot of bamboo so it must be substaintial.

Lance, I think he started growing bamboo when not many people even knew it would grow here, and I think its mature size was more than he expected, and i think he wants to keep what's left . He has a small city lot and that was a lot of bamboo.
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