A Few More Unknown Phyllostachys

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A Few More Unknown Phyllostachys

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Picture 1&2 are the same shoot a few days apart,the mother plant is definatly a Phyllostachys,dug in Houston about a month ago,culms are lime green to deep yellow,leaves were deep dark green and very thick (almost like a uecoliptus tree,,sp?)will add photo of culm leaves and branches but leaves are in partial transplant shock


<img src="http://www.bambooweb.info/images/bamboo ... on_dig.JPG" alt="Unknown">

<img src="http://www.bambooweb.info/images/bamboo ... _dig_4.jpg" alt="Unknown">

Below is a Phyllostachys I dug Rhizome only out of a yard that was having a yard sale the mother plant was a first year itself and I didnt have my camera,the shoot looks interesting enough that I'm hopeing someone recognizez it,,thanks in advance again
<img src="http://www.bambooweb.info/images/bamboo ... _shoot.JPG" alt="Unknown">
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Hi Kaylen,

I presume your first pictures are of the bamboo we both took divisions of a few weeks ago. It had some small dark shoots that I took pictures of last Friday but they were only an inch or less high so did not show much yet. I expect they will be larger this week end when I get home unless the rabbits got them, and will take some more pictures. I also have pictures of the culm, branches, and leaves, which I will post. My recollection is that the yellowing of the culm was more pronounced near the nodes and the branches were completely yellow.

The second one looks like the one the rhizome you came me when you visited here. That one was also just starting to break the surface last weekend and was very pale.

Hopefully, as you say, someone here will recognize them.

Mike near Brenham TX
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Shoot pic #1 does not look familiar to me which suggests perhaps, Nidularia or Praecox?????

Shoot pic #2 sure has the earmarks of Aurea but Meyerii and a couple of others share that blade cluster/form at the top.
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If unknown #1 is the same division as the one I was referring to above, it comes from what was the Rev. Dr. Yates' place in Porter TX. The list I had published earlier was from a book the present owner inherited when he purchased the property a number of years ago. The Phyllostachys listed were:
Phyllostachys aurea - Fishpole or Golden Bamboo
Phyllostachys bambusoides 'Allgold'
Phyllostachys bissetii - Bisset Bamboo
Phyllostachys congesta (now Phyllostachys atrovaginata - MJM) - Fishscale Bamboo
Phyllostachys dulcis
Phyllostachys glauca
Phyllostachys makinoi - Makino Bamboo
Phyllostachys meyeri - Meyer Bamboo
Phyllostachys nigra
Phyllostachys nigra 'Henon' - Henon or White Bamboo
Phyllostachys nuda
Phyllostachys pubescens (now Phyllostachys edulis- MJM)
Phyllostachys rubromaginata - Red-margined Bamboo
Phyllostachys viridis - Green Bamboo
Phyllostachys viridis 'Houzeau' - Houzeau Bamboo
Phyllostachys viridis 'Robert Young' - Robert Young Bamboo
Phyllostachys viridi glaucescens
Phyllostachys vivax
That doesn't necessarily mean it has to be one of these since he may have had others that never made it on to the list, but these bamboo would be the first to consider. As Kaylen has said, one of the most notable characteristics of this bamboo were how thick and dark green the leaves were especially for this time of the year. I wonder if that is a sign of "hardiness."

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below is the branching ,notice the third little branch between the two main branches ,its like that all the way up except the lowest two branches

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here are the leaves ,the leaf sheaths make a upward arch between the branch and the leaves

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As I've said, I don't yet have Nidularia but the shoot pics I've seen are fairly unique and the 2nd shoot pic above reminds me of them. Then, your culm photo seems to have an enlarged node which again suggests Nidularia. The branch pic reminds me of Heteroclada Solidstem which also has enlarged nodes but the shoot doesn't seem right to me. Mike's list does not contain Nidularia so maybe not...The list does have Aurea, Meyerii, and Glauca all which tend to be 'bladey' like the bottom shoot pic - the Glauca though should likely turn dark brownish/purple though if its Glauca.
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RE: A Few More Unknown Phyllostachys

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1 & 2 look a lot like an unknown I have here that was ID'd last year as bissetii. I can't say I'm 100% certain mine is Bisset but yours looks just like it.
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Apparently Bisset can have culm sheath auricles but I've never seen them on my plant.
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RE: A Few More Unknown Phyllostachys

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Mike,

From memory, the new shoots on my division look a lot like what you have posted. I measured the culm on the division and it was a little over an inch. It was probably close to twenty feet tall before I topped it. This was a smaller culm from the edge. The larger culms were probably 2+ inches in diameter and over 35 ft tall.

Kaylen,

What do you think?

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RE: A Few More Unknown Phyllostachys

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Bissetii is one that I've been hovering around decideing on,,,partialy because from other pics it has the third middle branch and the leaves also arch,,,,pluss I've heard it has rich dark leaves and these were definatly that ,,,whatever it is I like it as soon as its done shooting I have a nice spot for it ,,eventualy we will learn the fine differences and find out,,,thank you all for input
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