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Sorry if you don't have a fast-speed web thang. The file size is 7.6 MB on YouTube.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YAP2dv0858
This is a 1 1/2 minute movie of the Bamboo I dug this week and trying to get an idea of what it is.
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Ah shucks, movie time is like getting pick last at recess. At least you threw in some pics, not that I know anything. I'm like clueless george.
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What is the top pic, it looks like a rhizome in culm form.
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Oh yeah its weird alright.

Well I-O-WA just try a guess or two ...give it a shot... you could get it.
There is as I understand it only 1200 Bamboos. This one is green and brown with little stickie things coming out the side.
I am 75 & 1/2% sure it is a bamboo 'something'.
Maybe its an undiscovered one.
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Bill,

It's phyllostachys. I saw a 2nd branch on one of the nodes. The leaves look like Ph. dulcis. The heavy branches look like bambusoides. The culm looks like praecox. The adventitious roots could be any number of large timber bamboos. How large is the mother plant? Were those brown streaks about 1/2 way up the culm? Do you have much cold weather in that part of Tx? The only phyllostachys that I know of that doesn't need a cool winter period is bambusoides. Sorry, more questions than answers.

Good looking bamboo!

I love the animal sounds in the background. Are they yours?

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OK
My neighbor thinks he is a farmer.... when he is sober. He has chickens, turkeys, a horse a jack-ass donkey & 2 hound dogs. We live at the edge of town in the 'hill country'. So far in the last couple of months I have seen a bobcat grab 3 of his chickens at different times and I have another neighbor that shoots arrows at them, my wife shoots her B-B pistol at them but their number keeps going up.
Next week when it gets warmer I will go and dig more of them and check them (the mystery Bamboo) out closer. I'll keep you posted. The brown streaks go all the way up the plant.
We get freezing weather from time to time.
I am about 250 miles north of Boonut. So its not quite 'tropical'.
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My neighbor thinks he is a farmer.... when he is sober
What does he think he is when he isn't? :hal
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David wrote:Bill,

It's phyllostachys. I saw a 2nd branch on one of the nodes. The leaves look like Ph. dulcis. The heavy branches look like bambusoides. The culm looks like praecox. The adventitious roots could be any number of large timber bamboos. How large is the mother plant? Were those brown streaks about 1/2 way up the culm? Do you have much cold weather in that part of Tx? The only phyllostachys that I know of that doesn't need a cool winter period is bambusoides. Sorry, more questions than answers.

Good looking bamboo!

I love the animal sounds in the background. Are they yours?

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David,

Perhaps, being a tropical guy, I should stay out of the "guessing game", but I think that the growth (spikes, adventitious roots, or whatever) at the nodes is something that is unique and not common. I've looked through a lot of the Phyllostachys images and I can't find an images showing this feature on any of the Phyllostachys bamboos.

<img src="http://www.bambooweb.info/images/bamboo ... side88.jpg" alt="Phyllostachys bambusoides ">

<img src="http://www.bambooweb.info/images/bamboo ... usta33.jpg" alt="Phyllostachys angusta ">

<img src="http://www.bambooweb.info/images/bamboo ... -culms.JPG" alt="Phyllostachys aurea ">

<img src="http://www.bambooweb.info/images/bamboo ... lis.23.jpg" alt="Phyllostachys aureosulcata 'Spectabilis'">

<img src="http://www.bambooweb.info/images/bamboo ... rookst.jpg" alt="Phyllostachys bambusoides 'White Crookstem'">

<img src="http://www.bambooweb.info/images/bamboo ... lis116.jpg" alt="Phyllostachys edulis ">

<img src="http://www.bambooweb.info/images/bamboo/P.meyeri.jpg" alt="Phyllostachys meyeri ">

<img src="http://www.bambooweb.info/images/bamboo/Pn.henon9.jpg" alt="Phyllostachys nigra 'Henon'">

<img src="http://www.bambooweb.info/images/bamboo ... _Young.jpg" alt="Phyllostachys viridis 'Robert Young'">
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What does it mean when the branches coming off the node are fairly large and single but further up the culm it has 2 branches 1 large and 1 tiny one? That too is strange. It has a sulcus with single buds at the bottom on the nodes and little sticky things protruding like thorns or maybe 'fingers' or they could be called 'nubs'. And the nodes look somewhat prominent. Well ... that is my unscientific description.:roll:
Maybe its 1/2 Phyllostachys and 1/2 Bambusa is there any such a thing? A 'Runnaclump' or how about Chimonophyllostachyquadrang bambusoides? OMG my head is spinnin'.
The place I got this from is a community garden that has been there for years and now it has been neglected. It has several different genus of bamboo all kind of mixed up together. There is no telling where it originally came from.
All this means is I am developing an obsession to get back and investigate and see what else I can find out about this goofy plant.
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I noticed on the far left culm and the one on the right 2nd node from the bottom this Ph.v. R.Y. it has a sulcus with a bud near the bottom. That is interesting. So we'll see what else I can find out about this mystery bamboo.
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Bill,

You cracked me up talking about your drunk farmer neighbor :lol: :lol: Sorry, I must have hit a sore spot. The best way I have found to control chicken populations is to eat them!

Dormant branch buds on lower nodes is common, viridis, RY, arcana, bambusoides etc.

I have a lithophila that has single large branches on the lower culms, and then a dominate branch with a smaller 2nd branch on higher nodes. I suspect if you were to look at the mother mystery plant that you could find the occ tiny third branch on older culms. It probably means that your plant is a phyllostachys.

Roy- I don't know why you should exclude yourself from temperate bamboo discussions. I usually learn something or a thought is stimulated by your comments.

I have an unfair advantage with the little nubby things around the nodes, because I have several phyllos that exhibit this characteristic. I have a theory that the aerial roots on lower nodes are the result of excessive stimulation (wind) during the shooting process. Since the purpose of those roots is to anchor the culm firmly to the ground might not excessive movement of the culm result in the anchor roots development? Well just a thought. Weather permitting I'll take some pics of the phyllos to which I was referring.

I'm going to suck it up, and stick with my guns on this one. It's a phyllostachys, probably one of the bambusoides.

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David, I hope its not the kiss of death but I tend to agree with you on this. I too see Phyllostachys that look like this near & below the soil line but upper nodes no longer look ready to push roots.

Mark Meckes may be just the guy to get to weigh in on this, he is a very savvy Texas running bamboo guy, I think he visits this forum but you may wish to post a query on his bamboo forum as well.

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Bill,

I do not have a guess as to the identity of your plant, but I will share one observation.

None of my Phyllostachys sp. normally show evidence of root primordia very far above ground level. However, I had a Phyllostachys dulcis rhizome grow underneath a pile of soil. In the spring, a shoot emerged through the pile of soil. When I finally got around to removing the pile of soil, I found that the buried culm nodes had developed roots. I suppose it is possible that, under certain conditions, other species could produce roots at lower culm nodes, without being buried.
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David
I would help to depopulate the 'C' factor but those suckers are wild and hard to catch. For some unknown reason when those critters see me they all run... fast.
Maybe they can read my mind?
Anyway thanks for all the input. I have learned alot from this episode. When I find out more about the ???boo I will relay the info.
Thanks again
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I'd suggest going back to the CommunityGarden, finding the largest superfluous culm, cutting it off, and looking for the square-ish cross-section, typical of Chimono. quad.


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