needmore wrote:Roy, speaking from ignorance here, I would guess that a 25F night in Tampa is only for a brief few hours with the temps usually rising above 32F quickly and although freezing, not a hard freeze? CJ's 25F may have been the low, but what was the overall weather pattern, how long did it stay below 32F - long enough for a hard freeze, was the plant exposed to direct sunlight with temps below 32F, was it windy during the freeze?
It could be bunk, but I think a given species of bamboo may be able to take severe temps for a few hours with moderate damage while the same plant may totally cook at higher temps but longer durations of freeze. I also think the opposite is true, species that have cooked at brief severe cold held up to 'warmer' deep freeze, as indicated by this past winter.
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Brad,
What you say is true, but in 1989 we had 2 nights in a row of 24 F with mid 30's in between during the day. Even my B. oldhamii wasn't harmed and I don't agree with the Source List that da Buddha and da oldhamii are both rated at 21 F degrees. I've seen oldhamii killed back at Kanapaha Gardens in Gainesville while as Buddha Belly didn't seem to be hurt by it.
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What you say is true, but in 1989 we had 2 nights in a row of 24 F with mid 30's in between during the day. Even my B. oldhamii wasn't harmed and I don't agree with the Source List that da Buddha and da oldhamii are both rated at 21 F degrees. I've seen oldhamii killed back at Kanapaha Gardens in Gainesville while as Buddha Belly didn't seem to be hurt by it.
Well the mid 30's the next day/s may have been the key, perhaps CJ can remember if they stayed below 32F for 24 hours+
Back to the subject! my wamin has a couple nice little horns poking out!
it's in a pot that i lugged in and out this winter,looks like it was worth it now
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I believe it did stay below freezing for the entire day for every other day it seemed - Mon-Wed-Fri it was below and the days were below 40 I know. and that went on for 2 weeks. They all look terrible. One in a planter has alot of leaves sprouting and 1 pencil sized shoot coming out. All the rest look like tumbleweed but I'll wait and see what happens. I gave the culms a little shake and they feel sturdy.
Take care
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Phyllostachys aureosulcata has a short shoot poking up.
Phyllostachys aureosulcata 'Spectabilis' is shooting like crazy and should produce a nice mini grove.
but I'll wait and see what happens. I gave the culms a little shake and they feel sturdy. 
