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Alternating stripes on Bambusa emeiensis 'Viridiflavus'

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I grow Bambusa multiplex 'Goldstripe' and I know about 20 percent of the culms will have the gold stripes on them. I acquired Bambusa emeiensis 'Viridiflavus' last year and I'm wondering about the percentage of alternating stripes versus culms without any of the yellow striping. All of my new culms, except one, have alternating yellow stripes. I have one culm that came up last year without stripes. I took it as a division and potted it. It has since produced a new culm with no stripes on the new culm. Can anyone give me a general percentage of the number of culms that will have yellow stripes as opposed to the number of culms that will have no yellow stripes? Inquiring minds want to know!


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I got one of those from Chuck last year... Mine is already in the ground. I have heard nothing but good things about that bamboo.

Can't wait to hear more about it. I suppose your answer is like B. Vugaris "vittata"... every now and then it sends up a green culm... and even fewer times, it sends up an "inversa"... green with yellow strips. I have one inversa in a 15 gallon pot. The first two culms came up green with yellow stripes... now the stripes are a little less noticeable and may be fading. I don't know the percentages.

I sure hope the B. emeinsis "viridiflavus" holds its stripes. My biggest culm is about 1/2 inch so far and about 7 feet tall. Sure is pretty.

Another one I got last year is the B. Distegia. It is in the ground and looks like it is a really winner. Very pretty culm color... will have to see how it grows out at the land with the strong winds. So far, it stands out in a crowd.

B. Chungii is in its fourth year out at the land... really starting to look nice. First two years.... yuck!!! It looked sickly... now it has really taken off and has the nice culm color and leaves.

Sure is a nice time of year to enjoy the "changes" in bamboo. Losing the old leaves and putting out new leaves. The first year I put things out at the land the leaves end up around half the size they were at my house in the city... the second year they grow to 2/3 the size they were at the house... and by the third year they are close. I suppose when they all get big enough to shelter each other from winds the leaves will get even bigger.
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I got my Bambusa emeiensis 'Viridiflavus' from Chuck summer 2006.(Bountiful Earth) and it has alternating yellow stripes as one would expect. We did not cut the top for transplanting and transportation. If I can avoid shocking them, then I like leaving the tops fully intact and as you can see it still found enough energy to send up new shoots even though it was a new transplant! (one tall culm with only a small root and rhizome cut close to the clum, about 24" as I remember it. It was very stressed and wilting for for the first 3 weeks during the hot summer but she pulled through after that. You can see the new shoots in the photo.
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Howdy y'all. I just got my B. e. Viridiflavus about a month or so ago, also from Chuck. It's just a small one though. Also picked up the B. hirose while i was there.. Wish i could help with the "stripe" thing but to early to tell. Perhaps next year.

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I had a nice gentleman come visit me today. He is a landscaper and designs landscape themes and uses a lot of bamboo in his projects. He told me one of the bamboo nursery people in South Florida tried to sell him some Bambusa emeiensis 'Viridiflavus', without stripes, at a good discount, but he didn't believe it could just lose it yellow stripes and figured it was some unknown species the dealer was trying to get rid of. I showed him my one piece that was doing the same thing. And now he realizes that it is possible.

So I ask you, Bambusa emeiensis 'Viridiflavus', without its yellow striping, would be called Bambusa emeiensis?(':?:')

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Roy wrote:I had a nice gentleman come visit me today. He is a landscaper and designs landscape themes and uses a lot of bamboo in his projects. He told me one of the bamboo nursery people in South Florida tried to sell him some Bambusa emeiensis 'Viridiflavus', without stripes, at a good discount, but he didn't believe it could just lose it yellow stripes and figured it was some unknown species the dealer was trying to get rid of. I showed him my one piece that was doing the same thing. And now he realizes that it is possible.

So I ask you, Bambusa emeiensis 'Viridiflavus', without its yellow striping, would be called Bambusa emeiensis?(':?:')

http://www.kew.org/data/grasses-db/www/imp01244.htm
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Roy wrote:So I ask you, Bambusa emeiensis 'Viridiflavus', without its yellow striping, would be called Bambusa emeiensis?(':?:')

http://www.kew.org/data/grasses-db/www/imp01244.htm
Sort of like if Bambusa tuldoides 'Ventricosa' lost its bulges should it be called Bambusa tuldoides? :D Sorry, couldn't resist that.

I guess the question is what to call plants after they apparently revert back to the original form or mutate to a form more similar to the original, and what to call seedlings. I do not know but I would think it is OK to use the "parent" name but with the qualification that it has reverted or is a seedling. I have told people that I have given BmAK seedlings to, that they probably would be more similar to the generic B. multiplex than to 'Alphonse Karr.'

With respect to B. emeiensis, does the reverted plant match the description from Kew or the one in the Flora of China? http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx? ... =242307608 Since it is not in the source list, I presume that the generic B. emeiensis has not been imported or for sale in the US?

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Mike McG wrote:
Roy wrote:So I ask you, Bambusa emeiensis 'Viridiflavus', without its yellow striping, would be called Bambusa emeiensis?(':?:')

http://www.kew.org/data/grasses-db/www/imp01244.htm
Sort of like if Bambusa tuldoides 'Ventricosa' lost its bulges should it be called Bambusa tuldoides? :D Sorry, couldn't resist that.
Now that's the kind of reverse logic I never thought of. (':D')

With respect to B. emeiensis, does the reverted plant match the description from Kew or the one in the Flora of China?

I would have to get my magnifiy glass and glossary of bamboo terms to be able to figure that one out. Even then, some of the scholarly descriptions give opposite description, so I don't know how much some of it helps.
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx? ... =242307608 Since it is not in the source list, I presume that the generic B. emeiensis has not been imported or for sale in the US?

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When my Bambusa multiplex 'Alphonse Karr? puts up green culms they have a yellow stripe much like the ones shown in the pictures above. What do you call that - revert, or is it Bambusa multiplex ???, because it does not fit Bambusa multiplex? :shock:

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Michael wrote:When my Bambusa multiplex 'Alphonse Karr? puts up green culms they have a yellow stripe much like the ones shown in the pictures above. What do you call that - revert, or is it Bambusa multiplex ???, because it does not fit Bambusa multiplex? :shock:

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Why do you say it does not fit Bambusa multiplex? It may no longer look like 'Alphonse Karr' but I would be surprised if it had changed so much as to no longer looked like the multiplex family. Is that what you are saying.

It sounds to me perhaps it may be similar to 'gold stripe'?
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Mike,

I meant it is not plain Bambusa multiplex; it differs by having the yellow stripe similar those shown.

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I have a B.m. 'Goldstripe' clump in the ground and I had a B.m. 'Alphonse Karr' clump until I put it under the fire-smoke flowering test. Before the fire-smoke flowering test, my A. Karr would occassionally put up a larger culm which had green with yellow alternating stripes. I though to myself "this is where the B.m. 'Goldstripe' is coming from!" But when I would cut the green with yellow striped culm out of the A. Karr clump, the "wayward" culm would always be taller and bigger in culm diameter than my clump of B.m. 'Goldstripe'.

B.m. 'Goldstripe' clump @ Roy's place on the Suncoast:
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I did see a picture of Bambusa emeiensis in a bamboo book last night and it did look nice. Just no stripes. The one I have in the ground, with no stripes, would definitely be desirable plant. It's just that the striped one is much more sought after and the striped one came first to American (They're coming to America--Neil Diamond).

I just need a marketing strategy. Let's see now:

Bambusa emeiensis: Viridiflavus without the stripes, but without the price of Viridiflavus!

I'll have to work on the slogan.

Even without the striping, it is an erect bamboo with fairly large leaves and fairly dark green culms.

Envision what this bamboo would look like without the stripes and you have Bambusa emeiensis.
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Roy wrote:... Let's see now:

Bambusa emeiensis: Viridiflavus without the stripes, but without the price of Viridiflavus!

I'll have to work on the slogan.

Even without the striping, it is an erect bamboo with fairly large leaves and fairly dark green culms.

Envision what this bamboo would look like without the stripes and you have Bambusa emeiensis.
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I like the fact that as stated in the Flora of China it has "Branches absent from lower nodes." They do not appear to be trimmed. I would think there is a market for B. emeiensis for those who do not have it or those who want a green bamboo if the revert or mutation is stable. Perhaps B. emeiensis "Viridis" would be technically more correct? Now if only it were hardy down around 18-20?F.

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